# align.seqs issue/ groups removal

**URL:** https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304
**Category:** mothur bugs
**Created:** [March 17, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304 "2015-03-17T16:56:05Z")
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### Author: ![sid87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@sid87](https://forum.mothur.org/u/sid87)
#### Post date: [March 17, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/1 "2015-03-17T16:56:05Z")

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please find summary results i have the number of seqs are in single digit is it normal?

also some of my groups have been completely removed again no clue why

mothur \> summary.seqs(fasta=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.fasta, count=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.count\_table)

Using 1 processors.

Start End NBases Ambigs Polymer NumSeqs  
Minimum: 1 265 265 0 4 1  
2.5%-tile: 1 0 0 0 4 1  
25%-tile: 1 268 268 0 4 2  
Median: 1 268 268 0 5 3  
75%-tile: 1 268 268 0 5 4  
97.5%-tile: 1 268 268 0 5 5  
Maximum: 1 268 268 0 5 5  
Mean: 1 267.4 267.4 0 4.6

# of unique seqs: 5

total # of seqs: 5

Output File Names:  
s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.summary

  
mothur \> align.seqs(fasta=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.fasta, reference=silva.v5.fasta)

Using 1 processors.

Reading in the silva.v5.fasta template sequences… DONE.  
It took 7 to read 14956 sequences.  
Aligning sequences from s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.fasta …  
5  
Some of you sequences generated alignments that eliminated too many bases, a list is provided in s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.flip.accnos. If you set the flip parameter o true mothur will try aligning the reverse compliment as well.  
It took 0 secs to align 5 sequences.

  
mothur \> align.seqs(fasta=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.fasta, reference=silva.v5.fasta, flip=t, processors=8)

Using 8 processors.

Reading in the silva.v5.fasta template sequences… DONE.  
It took 7 to read 14956 sequences.  
Aligning sequences from s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.fasta …  
1  
1  
1  
1  
1  
Some of you sequences generated alignments that eliminated too many bases, a list is provided in s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.flip.accnos. If the reverse compliment provd to be better it was reported.  
It took 0 secs to align 5 sequences.

Start End NBases Ambigs Polymer NumSeqs  
Minimum: 1 4466 129 0 4 1  
2.5%-tile: 1 4466 129 0 4 1  
25%-tile: 1 4466 129 0 4 2  
Median: 1 4519 129 0 4 3  
75%-tile: 1239 11550 265 0 5 4  
97.5%-tile: 1241 12064 268 0 5 5  
Maximum: 1241 12064 268 0 5 5  
Mean: 496.6 7413 184 0 4.4

# of unique seqs: 5

total # of seqs: 5  
mothur \> screen.seqs(fasta=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.align, count=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.count\_table, summary=s3rfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.summary, start=1241, end=12064, maxhomop=8)

Using 1 processors.  
Processing sequence: 5

Removing group: S3RFCBJ3 because all sequences have been removed.

Removing group: S3RFCBJ6 because all sequences have been removed.

I am sorry i am newbie (and excuse if some one has already posted the solution for such problem earlier could not find it)

thanks  
sid

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### Author: ![westcott](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.mothur.org/westcott/32/18_2.png) [@westcott](https://forum.mothur.org/u/westcott)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/2 "2015-03-18T12:56:17Z")

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It looks like most of your sequences were removed before these commands. Possibly in a screen.seqs command? Could you post the commands you ran before these?

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### Author: ![sid87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@sid87](https://forum.mothur.org/u/sid87)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/3 "2015-03-18T13:53:06Z")

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hi,  
I figured out the reason for my earlier problem, no of bases were the problem…however i ran in to a new problem which i have not face before.

This time its with the chimera.uchime command, please find below  
mothur \> chimera.uchime(fasta=brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.fasta, count=brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.count\_table, dereplicate=t)

Using 1 processors.  
uchime by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

Checking sequences from brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.fasta …  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 75 sequences  
00:00 1.9Mb 100.0% 0/74 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 75 sequences from group BRFCBA3.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 47 sequences  
00:00 1.9Mb 100.0% 0/46 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 47 sequences from group BRFCBA4.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 88 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/87 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 88 sequences from group BRFCU1.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 115 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/114 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 115 sequences from group BRFCU2.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 110 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/109 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 110 sequences from group BRFCU6.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 114 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/113 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 114 sequences from group BRFCU7.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 120 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/119 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 120 sequences from group BRFCX2.  
uchime v4.2.40  
by Robert C. Edgar  
[http://drive5.com/uchime](http://drive5.com/uchime)  
This code is donated to the public domain.

00:00 18Mb 0.1% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
WARNING: Ignoring gaps in FASTA file ‘brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp’  
00:00 18Mb 100.0% Reading brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.temp  
00:00 18Mb 123 sequences  
00:00 1.8Mb 100.0% 0/122 chimeras found (0.0%)

It took 0 secs to check 123 sequences from group BRFCX3.  
[ERROR]: brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.accnos is blank. Please correct.

Output File Names:  
brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.pick.count\_table  
brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.chimeras  
brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.accnos

How can it be blank? when i set dereplicate=F the following is the result  
It took 0 secs to check 123 sequences from group BRFCX3.

It took 1 secs to check 792 sequences. 0 chimeras were found.  
The number of sequences checked may be larger than the number of unique sequences because some sequences are found in several samples.

Output File Names:  
brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.chimeras  
brfc.trim.contigs.good.unique.good.filter.unique.precluster.uchime.accnos

Best,  
Sid

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### Author: ![westcott](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.mothur.org/westcott/32/18_2.png) [@westcott](https://forum.mothur.org/u/westcott)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/4 "2015-03-18T13:59:39Z")

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Uchime is reporting 0 chimeras across all your groups.

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### Author: ![sid87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@sid87](https://forum.mothur.org/u/sid87)
#### Post date: [March 18, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/5 "2015-03-18T14:19:28Z")

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yes true but how do i proceed with the pipeline, the next command is remove.seqs which I am unable to run as accnos is blank !  
should i directly run classify.seqs?

Thanks.

Best,  
Sid

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### Author: ![westcott](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/forum.mothur.org/westcott/32/18_2.png) [@westcott](https://forum.mothur.org/u/westcott)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://forum.mothur.org/t/align-seqs-issue-groups-removal/2304/6 "2015-03-19T13:17:03Z")

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You do not need to run the remove.seqs command because there are no chimeras to remove. You can proceed with the pipeline.
